NS Cliches: Rebooted

12 March 2022

Aikoland wrote:
Free Stalliongrad wrote:Which is a shame, as they create at least one thread with good graphics (if they haven't gotten it somewhere). But they also have a tendency to disappear by the end of the month.
Oh, and I would also add the players who keep compiling that index even when the OP is gone.

viewtopic.php?p=38724187#p38724187
viewtopic.php?p=38735964#p38735964
viewtopic.php?p=38736039#p38736039

The OP literally CTE'd in early March and yet all three of these posts, from this month, answered 'Yes' on the 'Do you want us to telegram you your score' question.

Don't think OP is gonna telegram shit.

F.

by **Savroyska** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:54 pm

Aikoland wrote:
Free Stalliongrad wrote:Which is a shame, as they create at least one thread with good graphics (if they haven't gotten it somewhere). But they also have a tendency to disappear by the end of the month.
Oh, and I would also add the players who keep compiling that index even when the OP is gone.

viewtopic.php?p=38724187#p38724187
viewtopic.php?p=38735964#p38735964
viewtopic.php?p=38736039#p38736039

The OP literally CTE'd in early March and yet all three of these posts, from this month, answered 'Yes' on the 'Do you want us to telegram you your score' question.

Don't think OP is gonna telegram shit.

~~You don't say?~~

Well, unless they restore their nation, but yeah. There's so many dead F&NI threads

by **Laka Strolistandiler** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:01 pm

I’ve seen a cliche of people attempting to bring PT atmosphere in a MT or even PMT RP’s simply out of absence of PT roleplay in the age they are intersted in. Like I’ve recently RP’ed a WW1-esque pilot confrontation in a MT war.

by **Gandoor** » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:00 pm

Talking about gravedigging, one thing I'll never understand is when someone replies to a long-dead thread in F&NI when an already active thread about that exact topic as the thread they gravedug is on page 1 of the board.

Like what's the point?

by **Free Stalliongrad** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:00 am

Gandoor wrote:Talking about gravedigging, one thing I'll never understand is when someone replies to a long-dead thread in F&NI when an already active thread about that exact topic as the thread they gravedug is on page 1 of the board.

Like what's the point?

It reminds me of all those threads about the LGBT situation in your country. So many.
And who knows why even when this topic is posed in a general way, players will always say how much their leader himself is pro-LGBT or gay himself. And so will the whole nation. There will certainly be no extremist groups that hate homosexuals for some reason.

by **Qhevak** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:34 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I’ve seen a cliche of people attempting to bring PT atmosphere in a MT or even PMT RP’s simply out of absence of PT roleplay in the age they are intersted in. Like I’ve recently RP’ed a WW1-esque pilot confrontation in a MT war.

I mean that's a pretty common cliche for fictional depictions of warfare in general (NS is usually a lot better at not doing it than Hollywood is). WW1-esque confrontations in modern dogfights is like 90% of movie air battles.

by **Savroyska** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:50 am

Qhevak wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I’ve seen a cliche of people attempting to bring PT atmosphere in a MT or even PMT RP’s simply out of absence of PT roleplay in the age they are intersted in. Like I’ve recently RP’ed a WW1-esque pilot confrontation in a MT war.

I mean that's a pretty common cliche for fictional depictions of warfare in general (NS is usually a lot better at not doing it than Hollywood is). WW1-esque confrontations in modern dogfights is like 90% of movie air battles.

Outdated tactics in modern warfare, as we've seen in the American Civil War and WW1, will not go well

by **Gandoor** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:38 am

Free Stalliongrad wrote:
Gandoor wrote:Talking about gravedigging, one thing I'll never understand is when someone replies to a long-dead thread in F&NI when an already active thread about that exact topic as the thread they gravedug is on page 1 of the board.

Like what's the point?

It reminds me of all those threads about the LGBT situation in your country. So many.
And who knows why even when this topic is posed in a general way, players will always say how much their leader himself is pro-LGBT or gay himself. And so will the whole nation. There will certainly be no extremist groups that hate homosexuals for some reason.

Well excuse me for wanting to have a world where I'm not hated for who I am I guess.

by **Dayganistan** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:33 am

Free Stalliongrad wrote:It reminds me of all those threads about the LGBT situation in your country. So many.
And who knows why even when this topic is posed in a general way, players will always say how much their leader himself is pro-LGBT or gay himself. And so will the whole nation. There will certainly be no extremist groups that hate homosexuals for some reason.

On the flip side I notice a lot more nations that are violently anti-LGBT just for the sake of being evil and operate under the assumption that nobody in their nation is gay.

Qhevak wrote:I mean that's a pretty common cliche for fictional depictions of warfare in general (NS is usually a lot better at not doing it than Hollywood is). WW1-esque confrontations in modern dogfights is like 90% of movie air battles.

That's how they make it exciting for the audience. If it was a real modern air to air engagement they would just fire missiles at each other from beyond visual range and probably wouldn't even know the exact type of aircraft they're firing at beyond it being a hostile radar contact. Close range dogfights might still happen but the chance of the pilots knowing the identity of the other in that situation are slim to none.

by **Das Kaiserliche Vaterland** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:14 am

NS cliché: the straightforward and oversimplified solutions to extremely problematic issues e.g. global warming?, just reduce emissions and use clean energy; terrorism?, just bomb them until there are no more terrorists and such

by **Karevka** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:35 am

Das Kaiserliche Vaterland wrote:NS cliché: the straightforward and oversimplified solutions to extremely problematic issues e.g. global warming?, just reduce emissions and use clean energy; terrorism?, just bomb them until there are no more terrorists and such

Reducing emissions by using green energy is a way to combat climate change. ~~Although in my personal opinion nuclear is also a very viable option.~~

by **Qhevak** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:48 am

Karevka wrote:
Das Kaiserliche Vaterland wrote:NS cliché: the straightforward and oversimplified solutions to extremely problematic issues e.g. global warming?, just reduce emissions and use clean energy; terrorism?, just bomb them until there are no more terrorists and such

Reducing emissions by using green energy is a way to combat climate change. ~~Although in my personal opinion nuclear is also a very viable option.~~

Nuclear IS green energy tho.

And the only alternative to "just reduce emissions and use clean energy" is geoengineering, which can't be maintained forever so you've gotta switch eventually. The questions are how to reduce emission and what clean energy to use, which don't have easy answers.

by **Savroyska** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:49 am

Qhevak wrote:
Karevka wrote:Reducing emissions by using green energy is a way to combat climate change. ~~Although in my personal opinion nuclear is also a very viable option.~~

Nuclear IS green energy tho.

And the only alternative to "just reduce emissions and use clean energy" is geoengineering, which can't be maintained forever so you've gotta switch eventually. The questions are how to reduce emission and what clean energy to use, which don't have easy answers.

There will always be angry industrialists and other sects who don't want a change in general meaning that a full switch to clean energy would be pretty much next to impossible without causing a lot of dissent

by **Atheris** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:05 pm

Qhevak wrote:
Karevka wrote:Reducing emissions by using green energy is a way to combat climate change. ~~Although in my personal opinion nuclear is also a very viable option.~~

Nuclear IS green energy tho.

And the only alternative to "just reduce emissions and use clean energy" is geoengineering, which can't be maintained forever so you've gotta switch eventually. The questions are how to reduce emission and what clean energy to use, which don't have easy answers.

I'm a firm believer that nuclear energy is the best choice. Wind and solar energy aren't stable nor powerful enough and hydroelectric energy negatively impacts habitats. Nuclear waste is manageable (just bury it in the Mojave or the Sahara) and if elements like thorium or even americum (which was successfully used to generate electricity in the UK 2 years ago) are used instead of elements like uranium then it's also much less likely to meltdown and be transformed into nuclear weapons.

by **Valentine Z** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:20 pm

A dystopian NS nation set in the future, whereby stressed out people will be brought into these chambers to harvest energy from them.

Unlimited power!

by **Atheris** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:48 pm

Valentine Z wrote:A dystopian NS nation set in the future, whereby stressed out people will be brought into these chambers to harvest energy from them.

Unlimited power!

I don't know if I can link Skynut here because of the 18+ rule...

by **Northern Ateria** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:44 pm

Atheris wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:A dystopian NS nation set in the future, whereby stressed out people will be brought into these chambers to harvest energy from them.

Unlimited power!

I don't know if I can link Skynut here because of the 18+ rule...

Curiosity has killed the cat, I’m looking this up.

by **Atheris** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:48 pm

Northern Ateria wrote:
Atheris wrote:I don't know if I can link Skynut here because of the 18+ rule...

Curiosity has killed the cat, I’m looking this up.

It's further proof that there are no bad concepts, only bad executions.

by **Valentine Z** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:54 pm

I'm just going to pretend it's this:

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As for trope/cliche, err.... I don't know. Anyone noticed the relative lack of Fake Visa Adbots (TM) lately? I mean, it's welcoming not to see them around, but I would admit I sort of miss them because they are just way too obvious and as subtle as an wrecking ball.

by **Northern Ateria** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:55 pm

Atheris wrote:
Northern Ateria wrote:Curiosity has killed the cat, I’m looking this up.

It's further proof that there are no bad concepts, only bad executions.

by **Resilient Acceleration** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:04 pm

Das Kaiserliche Vaterland wrote:NS cliché: the straightforward and oversimplified solutions to extremely problematic issues e.g. global warming?, just reduce emissions and use clean energy; terrorism?, just bomb them until there are no more terrorists and such

Normies: renewable energy including nuclear is the solution to global warming.

Based: the above is true, but overconsumption due to the world getting richer is the root cause that also causes various problems outside of climate change, so the solution is a depopulation by a certain percentage.

Ascended: the above is true, but you're also a misantrophic lunatic who see the lower class as a burden, and uses environmental issues and a big list of other stuff to justify the selective genocide.

by **Cavirfi** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:21 pm

Help, I accidentally messed up the AN's sig thread by telling Cereskia to skip me

by **Fahran** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:24 pm

Resilient Acceleration wrote:
Das Kaiserliche Vaterland wrote:NS cliché: the straightforward and oversimplified solutions to extremely problematic issues e.g. global warming?, just reduce emissions and use clean energy; terrorism?, just bomb them until there are no more terrorists and such

Normies: renewable energy including nuclear is the solution to global warming.

Based: the above is true, but overconsumption due to the world getting richer is the root cause that also causes various problems outside of climate change, so the solution is a depopulation by a certain percentage.

Ascended: the above is true, but you're also a misantrophic lunatic who see the lower class as a burden, and uses environmental issues and a big list of other stuff to justify the selective genocide.

I see you've read Ishmael and rejected its message.

by **Resilient Acceleration** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:25 pm

Cavirfi wrote:Help, I accidentally messed up the AN's sig thread by telling Cereskia to skip me

Mood, I did that once with Sherechia too. Although I have never responded to them on that thread before, so I just put an apologizing notice and doublepost.

by **Aikoland** » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:33 pm

Do 'nations that have no concept of realistic military numbers' still exist? I'm talking nations that are supposed to be MT on Earth (or an Earth-like world) that are like 'Our total population is 30 million and 10% of our population serves in the military!'

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